Nighttime Benders
Nighttime Benders is your weekly go-to podcast for laughs and lively chats. With a rotating crew of your favorite local comedians, we dive into the hottest topics, dish out the latest local news, and get the scoop on touring performers swinging by town. Spend your night with Bend’s most entertaining personalities and enjoy fun conversations with familiar faces. This is a Powered by the Source Podcast, made possible by a grant from The Drawing Room Foundation.
Nighttime Benders
From Classroom to Comedy: Rachel Aflleje's Journey
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Join local comedians Katy Ipock, Brian Keister, Hopper and Julia Reed Nichols for a lively panel discussion as they explore local culture, recent events, and the art of comedy. This episode offers insights into Bend's community, the comedy scene, and humorous takes on current topics.
Plus catch our engaging interview with comedian and teacher Rachel Aflleje as she shares her journey from teaching to comedy, the unique crossover between the two fields, and her upcoming tour including a stop in Bend, Oregon. Discover her creative process, her experiences as a female comedian, and her favorite local spots.
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comedy, teaching, Rachel Aflleje, stand-up, female comedians, tour, Bend Oregon, creative process, comedy and education, local news, community, humor, festival, trademark law, robots, parenting, open mic
I've been doing my like social justice reading. And the amount of things I'm reading in these books that I had no idea about makes me question the school system. Like, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think there's a lot of reasons to question the school system. With that. Okay. All right. Welcome to the podcast, everybody. Welcome to this week's episode of Nighttime Benders. This is where you get to catch up with Central Oregon's favorite funny faces. I have some of my favorite comedians here with me today to talk about hot topics and local news and, quite frankly, anything else that comes to these people's minds. So let's start by introducing Hopper. Please tell tell the people about yourselves. Yes.
SPEAKER_03I'm 5'10. Wait, no, that's I I deleted my dating profile. Yeah, no, I'm my name's Brent Hopper from California, so you already love me. No, I used to host the uh open mic over Crave that shut down because you guys didn't uh buy food from there enough. Bend.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you're blaming them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, all of you guys that are watching. Specifically your fault. And I I have a Corgi and a Husky.
SPEAKER_01So he's like the most interesting thing about me is my dogs.
SPEAKER_03Really they are. Yeah. The Corgi can definitely take the shine away from me. So yeah. Other than that, I I am just, you know, I'm just an Irish idiot.
SPEAKER_01So fantastic. Love all the positive, positive reinforcements.
SPEAKER_03I love myself.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we love it too. We we actually, yeah, we do. We do.
SPEAKER_05Katie, would you like to go next? I am a third generation Bendite. I am a mom of a 16-year-old. 16. He's about to be a junior. Blows my mind. I've been doing comedy for 10 years. And I also write sentient object romances for fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And I I would call Katie the grand dame of central Oregon comedy. Don't do that. I do I that's that's how I like to think of her. Like just like strolling downstairs in beautiful.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's fair. I do have a relatively amazing wardrobe.
SPEAKER_01You do, yeah. I love your sense of style. Okay, Brian, you're next.
SPEAKER_02My name's Brian Kaiser. I've lived in Bend my uh most of my life. I I have a bachelor's in biology. I have I study local mushrooms in my college, and I've been doing comedy for about two years, and I'm also mostly a stay-at-home dad.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I also like to think that Brian has the sexiest voice in Ben comedy. So I think uh I I think the podcast like median is gonna be really good for you. That voice is silk.
SPEAKER_03Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Yes, it's lovely.
SPEAKER_03It's Keyster? Keyster. I feel like an ass. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Like with an eyester. It took you telling me that to be able to not have to ask. I also have a girl that works for me that I have to remember her name is Kirsten by pulling out my ear. Not Kristen, Kirsten. You know, these things help, you know.
SPEAKER_05I mean, you and I have known each other off and on for years. Yeah. And I still couldn't always remember how to pronounce your last name.
SPEAKER_02Until Julia came at me with the I think one of those things were specifically in in high school, I was a bit more timid and would just let people pronounce it. However, uh they wanted it's Keyster, like you know like it's Epstein, but Keyster Keyster, it's fine. It's alright.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, we'll get it right. Keyster. Yes. And I'm Julia Reid Nichols. Thank you guys again for joining us at nighttime benders. So I want to talk to you guys a little bit about Bend for people who might not have been to Bend. How would you describe our beautiful community to them?
SPEAKER_03Well, I moved here four years ago, almost five now. No, it's nice though. You know, it's a very clean city, it's it's awesome. The police uh are are somewhat nice, even though they write fat tickets.
SPEAKER_01It's making us sound like the most white red city. Now, Katie. And we are. We are, we are a very white red city. We are now Katie, you your family has been here for three generations.
SPEAKER_05Three generations. My great-grandmother came over on a wagon train.
SPEAKER_01On a wagon.
SPEAKER_05That's how, like one of the last wagon trains to come here. So like it's it's legit. And cars weren't available.
SPEAKER_03That was like while that documentary, Taylor Sheridan did a great job with it. It was like 1883, was it called, right? That was your family, right? That was that was my family. There were the survivors that made it over.
SPEAKER_05Barely, yeah. And that's why we take the organ trail. There's I mean, there's a tape of her somewhere. And we're in order.
SPEAKER_03That is interesting. Like, like, yeah, do you have like the information on the route?
SPEAKER_05That is somewhere. There is an audio tape of one of my stepsisters interviewing her about it. The only reason why I know about it is I sat in on that and I heard her be like, my parents brought me over on a wagon train.
SPEAKER_01Now you gotta find that audio tape. That's a mystery. It's somewhere, yeah. It's somewhere, it exists. You're gonna find it. I know you are. You've been here for such a long time. What would you tell people who've never been to the area? How would you describe that?
SPEAKER_05So it this is a very long-winded metaphor, but I like to think of Ben as the daughter of mill workers that got a liberal science degree, is pretty much what Ben is. Like Ben is learning that there's worlds and people outside of you know the three families that constantly co-polinated with each other. And like we're learning how to use big words and read and like care about people that aren't white. That's new to Bend, but they're trying. We're trying. But yeah, like that's there's still a lot of naivety.
SPEAKER_01It's a small town, and with that, there comes pros and cons, right? Yeah, it's also one thing about Bend is like we talked about last week, it is it is a bubble, it's hard to get to.
SPEAKER_04It's hard to get out of, right?
SPEAKER_01You know, so if it's hard to get to and hard to get out of, people can kind of hear the same information and believe it's true. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Well, and that's such a tough thing for artists in town. I mean, performance artists, at least from my point of view. I spent so much time in my early booking days getting people from outside of Ben convinced that it was worth traveling to Ben to perform. Because they were just so convinced that Ben was so small it wasn't worth it. Yeah. And then the second half of my like crusade was getting people from outside of Ben that book shows to respect that there was talent here worth booking. Yeah. Because we're so isolated.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05There's this assumption, like there's you know, the assumption that we don't know how to do stand-up. And like it's gotten better now, but because we're so isolated, there's such a misconception.
SPEAKER_01I will say that it's an unfair advantage that I had coming in from a big market, like saying, Hey, I've performed in Hollywood and Vegas, it instantly put me on the cool kids list, right? And so did. And yeah, it did, it really did. And like, I I mean, I know that.
SPEAKER_04I didn't, it's not like I I can't reach myself or I can't.
SPEAKER_01It's like I opened my set with like you should hire me more. I'm really good at this. Like, but it's it is a like, you know, it's a thing where people think you're better because you come from somewhere else, and that's not necessarily true. You like great things grow wherever they're planted, including Bend.
SPEAKER_03I've tried I've tried to leave this city three separate winters, and and I'm I'm back every time. It's it's and it's something about this just general area because you could feel it. Yeah, it has its past, but you could feel that there's a growth happening in this city, and the old timers might not like it. Uh, but I think for the majority of people do like what's happening. Um we are getting more diversity, we are getting a more lively or I think downtown scene, comedy's getting better, we're getting better artists here. It's it's good. I'm I'm staying at least for another year.
SPEAKER_05So every time I travel outside of Bend to do comedy, I always come back thinking that our the talent pool in Bend is really incredible. And I don't know what we do differently, but every scene should do it that way against the top comics in Portland. And we would hold our own if not rock that room.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I would agree with that.
SPEAKER_01But I think it's the stage time you get here. I think I saw your very first mic two years ago.
SPEAKER_02It's very possible. I think Hopper and I may have even been at the same time.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you came in like a month or two after I had a lot of money.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I feel like I saw your first mic or close to your first time, and the amount of growth that I've seen because you've been able to get stage time, that wouldn't exist in a market where you're like begging for three minutes.
SPEAKER_02Oh sure, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So that's nice.
SPEAKER_02But honestly, I would love a mic or two, you know, uh more i i in in the lineup. I feel like the stage time I get while we we do have mics most days of the the the weekday, if we could somehow stagger them, get you know fair where where people could, you know, cross-pollinate and uh like it'd be great. But gotta have uh the people behind it, not just the venues and and everything else. We need uh an audience, yeah, which is you guys.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, come out, we want you. We want you. Speaking of audiences, you saw something that happened in an audience. Was it in China? Oh this week.
SPEAKER_05So there was a robot in China doing a demonstration that kicked a child in the chest.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so you might have seen this viral video. It did, it was out there. I saw the video. Of course, we're concerned about the child's health. Of course.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01But I kind of I did laugh, first off. Second off, I kind of was like, sometimes I want to kick kids. Yeah. Especially at big events, right? So I don't know. I didn't I didn't blame the robot.
SPEAKER_03Are we what are we complaining about with the robot? I'm confused. Are we complaining that like he he didn't kick him in the right place? Didn't kick the kid hard enough.
SPEAKER_01What are we mad about the kid was still standing after?
SPEAKER_03No, it's mad now too. Yeah, yeah. It was really good. If we're gonna do it, knock the little bastard out. Yeah, robots were infallible. He crumpled a bit. He was crying. Got some tears out of it? Yeah. Okay, yeah. All right, that's okay.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was a solid how else is a robot supposed to lube its joints, but the tears of children like kids.
SPEAKER_01And people are like, this shows that robots are unsafe against this kid.
SPEAKER_03And I was like, It shows that the programmers have the right idea. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01I was like, maybe the robot has a sense of humor. Or maybe the robot was like, I'm done performing. You know, it's a good way to get out of this gig. Maybe they don't pay well. Uh uh, or maybe they don't pay, maybe the robots.
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna give them the idea to unionize, but I just I just I just feel like that we have some very uh stern, ethnically diverse mothers in other countries that are wanting to buy that as soon as it's affordable. Shoe throwing type, if you know what I mean. So yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's yeah, like that's could just handle that, and there we go. That's the that's what I want to see now is the robot throw the shoe at the kid. Like then it could actually take over parenting. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Sam Sam Altman's what talking about how he couldn't imagine parenting without chat GPT. Load that shit in that robot.
SPEAKER_03Right to sleep.
SPEAKER_05I never thought about it until now. How many new moms are going to chat GPT and being like, is this cry okay? In chat PT. Chat GPT is just telling them whatever they want to hear. Yeah. That's not helping the nurse line.
SPEAKER_02You're such a caring, understanding mother for asking this question.
SPEAKER_01It's it actually makes me feel good how affirming AI is of me. Like, AI makes me feel like all my ideas are brilliant and my mistakes don't matter. Like, I like that. I think I think more people should have that philosophy when it comes to it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, no, I got an Italian uh fiance, so whenever I talk with her, I'm I'm just having a nice 20-minute conversation with Jim and I, Groc, all three of them. Just they're just my they're my support group afterwards. Yeah, she's yeah, traditional.
SPEAKER_01Uh traditional. I love you though.
SPEAKER_03I love you.
SPEAKER_01In local news, Bend has been a buzz because local traffic cameras have gone. You were talking about this earlier, Brian.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, we we were. Um it seems, I don't know, like a little bit of a money grab. Like let's install these cameras so they can pay for themselves, right? I mean, it it and uh I don't know. There's more research on my end I need to do to read up on on uh my my own complaints about them that I'm already having, clearly, because why the cameras?
SPEAKER_01We don't need them, but it's it's interesting because I know certain jurisdictions have put these in and actually had to deactivate them because they decided that if a cop wasn't present, then the ticket isn't valid. Like basically, like people took it to court and they decide. So it's interesting to me that Oregon's like, hey, we're gonna try this, roll the die, see if somebody like files a lawsuit, because that's essentially what they're doing, right? Is they're just like, uh let's see what happens.
SPEAKER_03Wasn't there a guy in Redmond just a couple weeks ago that went full Chinese AI robot on one of those things that we put in? Oh I think so. Yeah, like totally just it's the real hometown hero.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, yeah, it well, it's whoever you are, don't break the law. But also Central Oregon has a very deep independent spirit, it likes to be left alone, right? And I do think these cameras make people feel a little big brothery. And I think I think there's this sense that it's people coming from outside making the decision to put them up, right? Like these aren't Bendites making this decision, it's the others.
SPEAKER_03It's a good company, right? Yeah, some amount of, yeah.
SPEAKER_05And that's that's been the like the mentality for generational Bendites has been living through people outside of Bend moving here and then changing it in some way, shape, or form. So there is definite. I guess it's not xenophobia, but like caliphobia.
SPEAKER_01Calliphobia. Yeah, I think a lot of the nation has caliphia, you know? A lot of the nation's like, no more Californians, please. My husband sometimes feels persecuted because he's like from the LA area, and when we travel, people will tell him how much they hate Californians, and he just has to like keep his truth to himself. He has to hide his true self.
SPEAKER_05It's kind of like when you travel the world and tell people you're from Canada. So they yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I I moved here from Las Vegas, and that's for the first year, is all I would say. Yeah, you know, where are you from? Oh, I moved from Vegas. Cool! Yeah, exactly. Totally welcome.
SPEAKER_01People love Vegas. Vegas, I will say, having lived lots of places when I tell people I'm from Vegas, people's face just light up. They can't wait to tell me their Vegas story. And I guess they seem like very trustworthy because people will tell them to me.
SPEAKER_05Strangers you haven't vetted.
SPEAKER_01I know. I think people like telling stories to strangers because, like, in a way, it's like if you go and tell someone else, who does it, what does it fucking matter? Unfortunately for them, I'm a stand-up comedian.
SPEAKER_03Favorite memories was in my mid-20s, taking a three-day Amtrak from Arkansas back to California, and I met the most interesting dude, an Israeli national uh like uh citizen immigrant that's moved here, opened up a blockbusters in Chicago, realized that was a failing business, and then moved and got a taxi company over in Tempe, Arizona. But the story behind that was even more inspiring. And uh, he would tell me about growing up, him and his best friend would share a two-sided pencil just to just to go to school, and they'd fight over and make sure they'd have that pencil just to get an education and eventually get over here. And y'all using Chat GPT to have the tests, y'all motherfuckers. All right, sorry. Just wanted to put that in there.
SPEAKER_05The thing about the cameras, other than the security issues, and you know, but I hate that they put it at an intersection right near the hospital.
SPEAKER_03Like if there's emergencies, like seriously. Right?
SPEAKER_05If there's any intersection where people probably need grace for like not, you know, rushing through that red light, like it's probably the intersection next to the hospital.
SPEAKER_01Like, you feel like that's an excuse if a cop pulls you over, right? Like, sorry, officer, I was speeding because I needed to go to the hospital. Yeah, but you can't tell that excuse to the robot.
SPEAKER_05No, no, that feels like a choice. That feels like hey, this intersection is gonna make us money. Because if there's any intersection where people are likely to make a silly mistake that a camera is going to catch, it's gonna be the one by the hospital.
SPEAKER_02Well, there's also the one on uh is it powers and and uh the parkway, which that to me is already super stupid because we only added all these lights on the parkway because of local businesses that prevented us from having just a thoroughfare through town with off-ramp. So it's like we're now paying for past mistakes in way too many ways in this country.
SPEAKER_01Uh well, let's move on to something which move on to something a little more fun. Festival season is upon us. Yes, Central Oregon, Pacific Northwest, the world in general loves a good festival season. I went to a festival last weekend at the gorge, which is beautiful, and I realized I fucking hate festivals. Yeah. And it was beautiful. The gorge is a fantastic venue if you've ever been there. The views are spectacular. Uh, we camped there. Interestingly enough, in the tent across from us was a group that I think I think they thought themselves amateur DJs. Right. They had a whole setup and a table. They had girls dancing around them, the cup, the hand in the air. It was a whole vibe all day long. And of course, they had the most important accessory, cocaine. Yes, yes, a nice, clear, visible vial of cocaine they were passing around all day. Which I thought I was like, oh, we're next to the party tent. How fun, right? Like, and then they unzip their tent and pulled out a baby.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then and then I started questioning my choices to be in a place where a baby and a cocaine can coexist. And I started being like, should should I call CPS? Is this a CPS worth is this CPS worthy to see somebody like actively doing drugs and parenting at the same time?
SPEAKER_02I mean, it sounds like they know how to do their drugs.
SPEAKER_01And it's like done cocaine before. And I was like literally like going into my like 19-year-old brain and being like, do I think I could have parented? Why high? And I think I probably could have. Like it doesn't seem it's not debilitating in the way like a mushroom trip is, right? You're not leaving the planet, you're just a little more intense about your parenting role.
SPEAKER_05You know what? Parenting with a little bit of quick speed is helpful, really.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, you could always switch it up with meth and clean the whole house.
SPEAKER_05Dude, if that was the only way I could get a house cleaning, you might consider it. Dude, Housewives in the 50s got prescribed some really good stuff.
SPEAKER_01It's why they could do it all. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, what they got prescribed. Uppers, downers, left, doctors.
SPEAKER_05A little cocaine outside, not so bad.
SPEAKER_03No, I I think, you know, hell, let them do fan if they want. They just need a Chinese AI robot. You know, you get a Chinese AI robot. To babysit your kids. Yeah, this kid actually kick that kid right back in the crib. You know, stay in the tent.
SPEAKER_01One of my co-workers was like, Do you think that she like pumped and dumped? Like, because if you're using cocaine, and I was like, I don't, that's a really valid question.
SPEAKER_05Babies are already difficult to take care of. I don't know if a baby on cocaine's worth it.
SPEAKER_02You don't need a fiending baby, and that's not true.
SPEAKER_05I don't need to be spit up quicker.
SPEAKER_01So that was that was my like fast. I like I felt like I felt like it was like way too real. I had to like worry about calling CPS, and like that was my festival experience.
SPEAKER_03Can I tell you that? I know for a fact you're wrong. And I I I no because I I when I was in my mid-20s, I helped uh the this guy, my two of my weed grown buddies get out of California because they got into some problems. And one of them brought his little infant, one-year-old, two-year-old kid. I don't know how old he was, but that dude was clearly on a bunch of drugs. And I'd wake up every morning and I'd have to fix the kid the bowl of cereal because he would be climbing in the trash, like pulling stuff out the trash to try to find something to eat.
SPEAKER_01Oh no. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03He's arrested somewhere, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_01But the kid or the parent?
SPEAKER_03No, both. But at least the kid's getting three steady meals a day now. So that that's three squares in a cup.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know. It's it's so hard when you don't have kids to like make comments on people's parenting. Because I'm like, absolutely, I can't even get my dog to sit. So I don't fucking have a comment on what you're doing with your child. Like, uh other than I know that's probably not allowed, but that's okay. I'm not an arc. Nitches get stitches, right?
SPEAKER_03No, I don't have kids, but I still judge the hell out of your parents. So sorry. No, I don't. No, it's hard. I can't imagine. My like I said, I'm 40, gonna be 41. My my 30-year-old fiance wants kids, and she says she wants five.
SPEAKER_01Five?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I'm like, yeah, the what by the time the oldest is old enough, he's gonna be changing.
SPEAKER_01Sure, you have like the first one, and then if you like the first one, maybe have the second one, and then if you're like two's cool, I feel like that's like an add-on situation, you know.
SPEAKER_03I don't know where she's gonna get that fourth or fifth one. Just don't let me know, son. Yeah, right. You know, don't let me know.
SPEAKER_01You're like, I don't want to take your dreams away from you.
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah. Let me tell you right now, sleep is precious. Yeah, sleep is precious. Yeah, don't don't do it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, is it possible to have five under five? Because that's what that's. Sounds like to me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's you know I negotiated a pet rule with her. I get I get kids squared and pets. So, you know, like it's I'm she wants to motivate me to have the kids too. So yeah, I'm like, if I get three kids, I got nine fucking pets. Nine pets. And I want and also I want has anybody heard of an Alaskan biggie? Like the Alaskan king size bed, but it's a biggie. The Alaskan kings? Jesus. That's if anybody's on going to my wedding to registry, it's it's only a ten thousand dollar bed.
SPEAKER_01So is that like the NBA bed? Is that like what all the like a shack bed?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like a shack bed. Yeah, basically. Yeah. That's exciting.
SPEAKER_01Girls, like even our kids, like well, I don't know if we should use the word shack because it might be trademarked. Which actually leads us into our next conversation. Trademark law, such a funny topic, right?
SPEAKER_05It's amazing how much of a conversation that is.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Right now.
SPEAKER_01It it seems to be. So I I think most people who are online right now in Bend are aware of the Patagonia versus Patagonia. And Katie, do you want to explain for people that might not be in the bubble what's going on?
SPEAKER_05So, man, I don't know if I know all the details well enough trap trademark law, but so the the drag queen Patty Gonia, who is amazing and a advocate for climate and all that, uh, has gotten some flack from the company Patagonia and for like trademark issues. And and of course, Patty the Queen is saying that Patagonia, the corporation, just wants to take her name away and it's turned into a whole thing. Yeah. And it amazes me to think about trademark law and it's drag queens, it's not old white dudes.
SPEAKER_02The company that's named after a biological region is going to trademark.
SPEAKER_01And as the daughter of as the daughter of two attorneys, I'm gonna be the legal mind here. Clearly the most as the legal expert in the room, I believe the issue that Patagonia, the company, is standing on is that they don't want Patagonia using their trademark images or selling apparel in merch that says Patagonia. That's hard because as an artist, we all know a good portion of the money that we make comes from the funds that we earn in merch after our shows. So to tell an artist that they can't sell a satired name. Now I will say this was all kicked off because Patty Gonia, the drag queen, decided to file a trademark. That's what started this ball rolling. It's complicated. You want to protect your legal copyright, but it's satire. Can you copyright satire is the that's the legal question? And I I'm I I'm not a lawyer.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and I don't know about law, but I'm I'm gonna take a wonderful drag queen over a corporation anyway.
SPEAKER_01So just I don't think it's worth their time to worry about, honestly. I don't think whatever whatever funds that they're making off selling merch from their shows is is worth prosecuting.
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_01Um but it but honestly, the press uh the Patty Gonia is getting office. Go, go, go, go. That is amazing. I love seeing artists getting highlighted and using something that could be really painful for a good cause. So yeah, but you were also talking about another group.
SPEAKER_05So the term hot girls read books was recently trademarked by somebody named Allie Reads on TikTok, and they trademarked it for like bookmarks and sweatshirts, and there was a list. And the entirety of book talk, which if you are a smut reader, you know all about book talk, got really, really mad about it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Because people have been using the term hot girls read books forever. And anybody who is on book talk eventually gets a cricket and you know makes their own stickers, and there's gonna be at least one sticker in their Etsy that says hot girls read books. And so Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_01I see, I sound so when you brought this up, there's actually a burlesque show called Hot Girls Read Books, where hot girls in various states of undress read books. It's exactly what it sounds like. There's no surprise. I love that idea. It's it's actually, yeah, it reads go ahead and pull up the footage.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but that's sign me up, right?
SPEAKER_01It it gets you into literature, right?
SPEAKER_05Whatever gets you there.
SPEAKER_01So I it does seem like a concept, and you kind of wonder, like, can it is that trademarkable? Like hot girls, like that's just a fact. Hot girls read books. Can you trademark a fact?
SPEAKER_02Right? And common phrases aren't copyrightable. They should be. So uh I would have to say it's it's gonna be hard to defend. I I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that she so this Allie Reads person got the trademark and then went to other people on Etsy and asked them to take their things down because it broke.
SPEAKER_01Because it's because she has it, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Because she has the trademark. So not only was she taking a phrase that all of book talk uses, she was also starting to target other small businesses. Yeah. And it's like everyone in this conversation, you know, we all read dragon porn, right? Like, well, why are we this focused on what somebody is putting on a tumbler and selling for $40?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's it's a great area. And I think especially with AI and I one of the things I've enjoyed about, you know, the you know, the AI world is you are able to create un trademark things that remind you of trademarking. Right. Right? Like it's it's like the ultimate way to steal like an artist. Have you guys ever read that book? Oh, it's a fantastic book. It's this idea that all art is stolen from other art. But and if you change it, it's called steal like an artist. Oh, okay. Absolutely. And if you change it enough, you'll be praised as being a genius. Literally, you just stole the idea from somebody else. And it's the idea of releasing the guilt that you're stealing because everybody did it, and it traces back all this stuff. It's a great it's a great book if you're an artist, steal like an artist. Okay. Um yeah, it trademarks hard because all artists, it's you're kind of standing on the sh shoulders of giants, right? Like we're all building upon what other people have done. Right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. So just to make this more male-centric, at least. Specifically, white white male centric. Star Wars was based on Flash Gordon, which was based on Frank Fuck Rogers, which was derivative of another cartoon in in newspapers, which was based on a book, which was based on another book, tracing it all the way back basically to the late 1880s. So it I mean, it's yeah, there's just it's it's all derivative.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and that all this is a fantastic. That all goes back to the hero's journey, which has been us writing whatever you want to call it from when we were deciding to make stories.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, every every blockbuster movie that the whole world gets it's it goes from follows the same beats every yeah, yeah. So next time you guys see me on stage and I'm um reciting a Bill Cosby pre-rape, uh I'm just being an artist.
SPEAKER_05Is there a stand-up from Bill Cosby that was pre-rape?
SPEAKER_03I hope so. Bill, please don't tell me you're doing it at the height of your day. I want to say it's an old Cosby that was doing it. Like I'm done. I think I'm trustful Hucstable and Doctor.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I think he was known for being a regular at the Playboy mansion. And I think now, as a girl raised in the early millennials, I hate to say anything bad about Playboy because I was brainwashed to think they're amazing like every other girl of my era, but they're there there's evidence to believe that was not a consensual house. So the men that frequented it regularly, it makes you question their character a little bit. Yeah. You know? Um What was the first Playboy you ever seen?
SPEAKER_03Who was the who was the the the centerfold in the Playboy? Do you remember?
SPEAKER_01I no, I don't I don't remember. It would have been it was at my stepdad's stepdad's house. So it was like my stepgrandfather's house in his basement. He had a box. When I was in Hollywood, I I had the privilege of meeting several of those models from the 60s, and all of them love their time as titty models.
SPEAKER_04Great.
SPEAKER_01So never the all those women I met loved it.
SPEAKER_04Do you remember the stuff?
SPEAKER_01Some of them met their husbands at the Playboy mansion, so they like had very fond memories of it. So it's a very complicated.
SPEAKER_03Oh, of course. So you little okay, no, I get it. Because yeah, you got the parties and stuff, but then the magazine was just a magazine. Well, yeah, it's just art. Yeah. Do you do you remember your first Playboy? I I do, and I feel like I was gyp. I got the Shannon Elizabeth edition. You got why do you know you guys remember what I'm talking about? American Elizabeth. American Pie. She had the platinum painted nipple, so I would I didn't even get a real nudie. Like, you know, it's like it's and and and we passed around the high school football team, the pages did stick. It was bad.
SPEAKER_05And speaking of a man American pie, I was listening to a book, Girls on Girls about Feminism. And American Pie is really about teenage boys trying not to be incels. And the moment they said that, I was like, holy crap.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And I'm just hard for all of them. Yeah, I'm gonna define incels because we say it in our world because it's it's regularly known, but I don't think the whole world is aware. Incels is an online community of involuntarily celibate people. So they exist and they're very angry about it.
SPEAKER_03If you're wondering if you're an incel out there, if you had Andrew Tate subscribed, uh you are in fact an incel.
SPEAKER_05Speaking of being derivative of Jeff Hopsworthy, you might be an incel. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Do you know what one of the exception is?
SPEAKER_01Uh one of my biggest points of pride is that I have no idea what Andrew Tate looks like. No idea. He could be standing right fucking next to me, and I'd be like, I have no idea.
SPEAKER_05Oh, he'd tell you.
SPEAKER_01He'd let you know he's there.
SPEAKER_03He looked, he looks like somebody tracks NYC would beat up in the diamond district. So yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, maybe we'll give him any energy because this is quick. But I do want to give some energy to a comedian that's coming to town. I had an opportunity to sit down with Rachel of the teacher show. And we'd love for you guys to listen to that conversation. Where are you? I am in a beer garden right now. Oh my gosh, you're in a beer garden. It's like the happiest place to be earned. Yeah, it's the best place to be. I love that. Okay, Rachel, let's start. Let's can you introduce yourself to uh our audience here in Central Oregon. Yes.
SPEAKER_00My name is Rachel Apjay. I've been a teacher and stand-up comedian for almost 10 years. Started both at about the same time. Um, and I've just been doing my thing.
SPEAKER_01That's great. And so you're coming to town. What you're coming to town with the teacher show. Can you kind of explain the concept of that show?
SPEAKER_00Yes, it's a great show. I love it. It's the only teacher show I know of that only uses comedians that are active full-time teachers. I I know a lot of the teacher shows that go around are like people who used to be teachers who then became comedians full-time. But the fun part about our tour is like everybody on the tour is a full-time working teacher, which makes it hard to like book dates and stuff. But in the summer, that's where we thrive. And you know, when the teachers come out to the shows, they really appreciate it because we are, you know, boots on the ground right there with them. You're one of them.
SPEAKER_01Why do you think there's such a yeah, right? Why do you think there's such a crossover between comedy and teaching?
SPEAKER_00I mean, it's really talking to drunk adults and sober children. It's it's the same skill set, really, honestly. Either way, it's a lot of like sit down, my turn to talk, you listen. Yeah. And we, I mean, we as teachers, we're putting on a show all day, every day, 40 hours a week. Um, and we are, you know, the star right there up front. So I think there's a lot of there's a lot of skills that carry over that give teachers great stage presence once they start comedy. They tend to be pretty creative as far as the writing goes. And uh, we have just an endless well of material with all the weird stuff that you know people's kids do in front of us all day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I imagine it's not just people's kids. I imagine it's parents and administrators, and the whole system is probably pretty all of the above. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Is this gonna be your first time performing in Bend?
SPEAKER_00I think it is. I think it is. I've done like Salem, I've done Eugene, I've done other spots in organ. I don't think I've ever made it to Bend.
SPEAKER_01Well, it's beautiful over here, I have to say. Do you have anything you're looking forward to doing while you're here? Are you just gonna get into town and then head to the next show?
SPEAKER_00My well, it's gonna be kind of a quick turnaround, but my favorite thing to do when I tour anywhere is I try to find a good brewery and I try to find a good dive bar. Those are the two like things I want to check off my list when I go anywhere because I just want to like see the people, see what it's like there. And that's where you find the most regular people, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, we have great of both. Do you have a specific kind of beer you like here? Because I might be able to like recommend. Oh, I love. Uh I'm an IPA girly. I like it. You're an IPA girly. Yeah. Okay. Well, Crux is really great, has a really great yard, but Ben Brewing Company, right on the Deschutes River. So you can have their beer and sit on the Deschutes, and it's it's Ben's magical. Yeah. And then all there's a, I mean, dive dive bars, we got plenty of those. Just find the lowest rating on Yelp, and you'll probably be very sassy. Get me in there. So you're a teacher, and you say you've been teaching 10 years.
SPEAKER_00What do you teach? I currently teach fifth grade. In the past, I've taught second grade and third grade as well. Um, but fifth grade is really kind of where I thrive. They they like the sassiness, they like the you know, the silliness I bring, and I can give attitude back just as much as they do. And so it's a it's a really good fit, personality-wise for me in fifth grade. Yeah, they drive me nuts, and I adore them.
SPEAKER_01I just adore them. It's right before they become middle schoolers and become completely intolerable, though, you know? Exactly.
SPEAKER_00By the end of the year, I'm always like, okay, I want to miss you, but I probably won't for a couple years at least.
SPEAKER_01So you said you started doing comedy 10 years ago. Can you tell me your comedy origins story? Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00I was in college, I was working at Domino's, and I know, really glamorous life for me. I was working at Domino's, and one of my coworkers, he was one of the delivery drivers with me, was telling me how he was a comedian. And I was like, How do you even like what do you mean you're a comedian? I didn't like it, it didn't cross my mind as like a thing a real person could do. And so he's like, Oh, I'm going to this open mic. And I thought it was gonna be the fanciest thing ever. Uh, and I was like, he's gotta be so funny because you know, he did comedy in Vegas once. He wasn't that funny. But but I went to the open mic with him and I just loved it. Like being around funny people, I've always loved, but I I always thought I wasn't cool enough to hang out with funny people. And so I went and I like started making friends with the comedians and I started like going on the sidewalk after the show, riffing with people. And the runner of the open mic was like, nobody comes to this many open mics. He was like, You want to do comedy. And I was like, Shut up, no, I don't. And then I did it, and I was like, that was terrible. I'm never doing that again. And then I did it again. And I was like, wait, but maybe if I try it this way. And then once I started, I just I couldn't stop. And then it just snowballed into this, you know, beautiful thing that now is my favorite thing in the world.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, it's great. You seem to be doing really well. I took a look at some of your online stuff, and like you're getting a lot of reaction from people, which is really exciting. Does being a female in the world of comedy ever feel like you're in the minority? Absolutely. All the time.
SPEAKER_00Uh, it used to feel a lot more like a problem until I got to the level and/or realized I was like, I'm funnier than I might be outnumbered, but like oftentimes I am performing just as well, if not better, than these men. So, really, that kind of gives me an advantage here in in Washington, where I perform a lot, um, because the audience wants to see women and they want to see funny women. Yeah. And so I can fill that hole, you know, no, no gross pun intended. Pun intended. I can I can fill that hole. And it's, you know, it's I women come up to me all the time after shows, and they're like, you know, it's been a long time since I've seen a woman on the show. And, you know, it's so nice to have a woman on the show. And I could there's like this stuff that comes with it being in a male-dominated field, but the pros outweigh the cons every single day of the week. Yeah, that's great.
SPEAKER_01So when you're not on stage and you're not teaching, what do you like to fill your time with?
SPEAKER_00I love a good dive bar. I love a good brewery. I love, you know, snuggling with my dogs on the couch. Love Island is like really Love Island summer right now. Um, so that's pretty, it's pretty big part of what I'm up to. I like to watch baseball a lot too. Yeah, baseball fan.
SPEAKER_01You sound like a woman who knows how to enjoy her leisure time. That's what I'm hearing. And I do.
SPEAKER_00That's right. That is exactly right. And I've learned like my leisure time doesn't have to be like chores or a task or a craft where I make something. Like I can just chill. Yeah. And that is my favorite.
SPEAKER_01And that's allowed. No guilt needed. I love that. I love that for you. Fantastic. Um, so when you're writing jokes, what's your process like? Are you do you take notes? Does it just like magic stuff that comes to your head? How do you keep track of the funny stuff that happens in life?
SPEAKER_00It tends to be like, I joke about my own experiences. So it tends to be like something makes me think of something, and then I'll just jot it down in my notes app. And then I'll take a, you know, a focus 30 minutes here, a focus 30 minutes there, and I'll just kind of write it out. And so I'll have like, you know, a couple paragraphs on this bit, and then I'll turn it into bullet points. And then I go on stage, and you know, that three, four paragraphs is like 45 seconds of a joke. And I'm like, okay, that worked, that didn't work, that worked. And then I go back to the bullet point form. And then sometimes when I'm like running the new stuff, that's when like the the new tags, I have that like aha moment on stage of like, here's what I need to do to actually make this funny because my instincts will take over instead of my like analytical brain sitting down trying to write.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But it's a combination of all those things are part of the process, and you know, trying it and having it suck first. That's a that's a big part of it. And then sometimes you try and it doesn't suck, and then you just make it better. Yeah, but it's all part of the process.
SPEAKER_01Do you still go to open mics and try out your stuff on the mic, or do you keep most of it to yourself until you're ready for the stage?
SPEAKER_00I uh actually have to trick myself into going to open mics. So I put myself on in a position where now I'm on the team that runs the open mic at Nate Jackson's super funny comedy club. And so that's my once a week, every Tuesday, I'm going there after this. Every Tuesday, I have to go to an open mic because I help run it. Like I the show, you know, I'm part of making the show happen. And so if if I do nothing else, it's like on Tuesday, I'm going and I'm gonna try a new joke. And that's so that's at least once a week I try to make that my habit. Cause if I don't have responsibility tied to it, I'll just like sit at home and then just do the paid shows that I'm booked on. And you know, you can work in new stuff that way, but it's I like it better when I can test it at the open mic and then run it on a show after.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I always think it's a great, it's a great way to kind of give back to the ecosystem that built you up too, right? Exactly. Like, okay, I'll give some energy to people that just need an audience and need, you know, exactly, just need time, right? Exactly. So you mentioned that in the summer is when you like to tour. Yeah. Do you have any other fun shows planned for this summer? So you're coming here to bend, but what other cities are you gonna be visiting?
SPEAKER_00We are also doing Boise and we're doing Le Grande. That's the place. Yeah. I've got some local stuff coming up. I booked a show in Merced in California, so I'll be heading down there. Yeah. But I just kind of, you know, go with the flow. Tim Meadows is coming to Tacoma and he asked me to open for him there. So I'll be doing some super fun local stuff too. And yeah, it's a good time. That's great.
SPEAKER_01So Tacoma is your home market, that's where you call home. Yeah. Yes, that's correct.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01I yeah. I grew up not too, I grew up kind of on the Seattle side, and but when I was touring, I've been through Tacoma a few times, and it's always it's always a fun city. And have you been to Boise before? I have, yes. Yeah, yeah. Boise is a boy. Boise's fun. Yeah. I like Boise. You'll like Boise, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we did the teacher show there once, and then I did a show. I I did a couple shows there over the summer one one year, and it was super, super fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they're they have a nice scene there too. You know, I one of the things I like about traveling across the country, I don't know if you've had this experience, is but you get to connect with a commun like local communities, and you're like, every and in a way, like every community is the same. Like they all have yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's why I say it's like the dive bar in the brewery because it's just a different flavor of regular people everywhere. And that is what I love about touring and being on the road.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And if people want to see your show and check out some of your comedy, how do they find tickets to your show here in Bend?
SPEAKER_00Everything is linked on my Instagram, Rachel Teaches Comedy. Um, and then the teacher show, I think it's in the venue. The venue has tickets posted for sale as well. So they can go snag those up and you know, we'd love to see them there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you guys are gonna be at the volcanic theater pub, I believe, right?
SPEAKER_00Yes, that's correct. Yep.
SPEAKER_01Fantastic. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to chat with me. I'll let you get back to your beer garden and hard-earned, happy hour. But thank you so much. Thank you.
SPEAKER_05Sounds good. Thanks for chatting with me. Can I just say, and you totally might cut this, Rachel is amazing, Dawn is amazing, the teacher show is phenomenal every time it comes through. Like, you need to go see that. If anything, just to support teachers. If you don't go to the teacher show, you hate teachers.
SPEAKER_03And if she cuts it, she hates Rachel.
SPEAKER_04I don't hate Rachel, and we can support.
SPEAKER_03We know. We will know. Yeah, we'll we'll know. We'll know.
SPEAKER_01But that's one of the few amazing shows we have coming up. They're gonna be at the Volcanic Theater Pub. Check out their website for tickets. But there are also several other great shows coming to town, including June 10th, which is locals at Silver Moon. $5 Comedy.
SPEAKER_05$5 Comedy Night. I absolutely love this format. I love that we do it. Uh part of it is the tickets, we absorb the fees for those tickets. So it's not like a five dollar ticket, but then you go to check out and it's really six or seven dollars. Like it's five dollars online, five dollars at the door. All local comics. You're not paying $50 something dollars to sit out on the grass at the amphitheater. Not that I have a grudge against that. And the lineup is always phenomenal because I I'm a huge proponent of local comedy in Ben, obviously, but I think the talent here is incredibly slept on.
SPEAKER_03I would be so mad if they $50 to sit on a lawn just to not be able to see the beautiful, magnificent face of Matt Rife once again this year.
SPEAKER_01Well it changes a little bit every time you see it.
SPEAKER_03Oh zing.
SPEAKER_01Another great show we have coming up, June 14th, Sam Miller. We have a bonus interview with him that's gonna be coming out this week. An opening for him is Liam Gibler, favorite local headlining comedian. And then June 17th is drunk history at Silver Moon, and that's being produced by John Brown. Yes. Yes. I think it's like one of his first like producing efforts, right? I believe so. Yeah, so don't support that. Give people good energy. If baby producers need our energy.
SPEAKER_05Well, in that drunk history show, they're also including improv in it. So these comics are gonna do one to two minutes of material, and then an improv team is going to try to reenact what says I think it is both going to be hilarious and a hilariously shit show, which is gonna be worth it.
SPEAKER_01Totally worth it. If you like the TV show, you'll love it live.
SPEAKER_03If you want another drunk activity, the week following, was it 17th, right? When was it? I can't remember. Yeah, June, June 19th. Yeah, yeah, 17th. Yeah. The week after that, Beard Town Comedy is also hosting the drunk spelling beat. So get your history, get your grammar, you know, all within a week.
SPEAKER_01I would never do that show. I can't even spell sober. Yeah. Like literally can't spell the word. Okay, so we have one thing I want to talk about is if you want to do comedy, there's no barrier. It's an easy thing to do. You don't have to be special or smarter or better than the person you currently are. In fact, all you have to do is show up to an open mic. And we have so many open mics in town. So if you have something to say on stage, we would love to hear you. So some of the mics that we have in town, we have Monday at Silver Moon, and then Wednesday at Craft.
SPEAKER_04Correct.
SPEAKER_01Thursday at Worthy. Friday is Chiba Hut. Yes, which is an outdoor mic.
SPEAKER_05Yes, so it's only for the summer. It I called it Sunset because it's like at sunset, but it's a pun. I love it.
SPEAKER_01It's lovely. We love the pun. It's great. It's great. It's a fun open mic. I loved going last year. And as soon as I'm not working, all freaking time I will be there. And then in July, there's a mic starting at General Duffy's.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, on Tuesday. Uh I think Cole Robison is putting it together, and it's gonna be a hot mic. Uh, you get a minute at time and you get to earn more and more minutes. The weeks go. So you try to bring your best. It's like kill Tony, but without all the racism.
SPEAKER_01So oh my gosh, that's so intense. So you start you start with one minute.
SPEAKER_03But you know, we'll we'll try to avoid it.
SPEAKER_01So judgment free zone around here, obviously. Okay, so that brings us to the end of this episode of Nighttime Vendors. How do you guys feel? You made it through your your first round of this. All of you, this is your first time being on the panel.
SPEAKER_03You gotta pee.
SPEAKER_01You gotta pee. It's it's been it's been 42 minutes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I have a very small bag and I drink a lot of tea. I gotta pee. I'm sorry. But it's been great. This is fun.
SPEAKER_01Again, judgment reason. Hopper, do you want to give us your pluggables? Where can people find you?
SPEAKER_03Uh you can find me on almost all the social media at hopper comedy. Just at hopper comedy. You want YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. It's at hopper comedy.
SPEAKER_01So fantastic. And Katie?
SPEAKER_05Uh you can find me at Katieipock.com. Find all the links to upcoming shows, including the Silver Moon shows. You can also go to Amazon and put in my name. You're going to find my albums. I actually have two audio albums. And then the two books I've written so far, opened by Gideon and uh oh my, I can't remember. The one where the guy has sex with the pile cabinet. I should remember the name of the club. I remember the plot, but I forget what I called it. Oh, fill the file cabinet. Obviously.
SPEAKER_01Obviously. Phil the file cabinet. Is it Phil PH or Phil F? PH Phil in the File Cabinet. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02A little bit of this. A little bit of that.
SPEAKER_01All right. And Brian, where can people find you?
SPEAKER_02You can find me on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube at Brian JK365. And I have almost nothing up uploaded. So uh yeah, but you can find me, DM me, you know.
SPEAKER_01He'll talk to you. He's he's slide announcing. He's on Facebook groups. Let me tell you what, this man is the most helpful Facebook grouper.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. Yeah. At some point we could talk about uh how involved I am in in the various uh Facebook groups, especially my college. But uh yeah.
SPEAKER_05Stay at home parent life.
SPEAKER_02Stay at home parent life.
SPEAKER_05Those Facebook groups are your social interaction.
SPEAKER_01Yes, and I'm Julia Reed Nichols reminding you that Nighttime Vendors is now on Instagram and YouTube and wherever you listen to your podcast. So please subscribe, like, give us the five stars, and we will keep bringing back more of Central Oregon's funny faces to chat with you. And we can't wait till next time. Yay! Till next time, guys.
SPEAKER_05Continue to wave. It's kind of like the handshakes you're waiting to see who breaks first.
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